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Re: F1 2020 stuff not worthy of it's own thread

Post by Circuitmaster » 3 months ago

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I'm well up for it incase I didn't mention previously.. variety. Why, when we have different configurations available, do we insist on racing the same one each year?

When they changed to the alternate long layout in 2010 I think, I loved it. Admittedly.. it wasn't a great change, but it was a change, it was interesting and a neat little experiment. Circuits with the ability to change their layout year on year should look to do it more often, especially considering how one sided the racing has been in recent seasons. Mix it up!
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F1 cars (and tracks) should turn left and right.
There is a (badly driven) onboard of the lap from what seems to be rFactor 1 on this Autosport video here:


In terms of laptime, it would be competing with Dijon in 1974, which (AFAIK), is the only time F1 cars lapped a circuit in under 60 seconds.
It does not seem to be much like an oval in the traditional sense, and I have no problems with that. I just dont like the idea of Speedway type ovals for F1.

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Post by erwin greven » 3 months ago

Would be an option for Interlagos :D
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Post by Antonov » 3 months ago

surely a sub 1 minute lap?

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Post by Michkov » 3 months ago

Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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PTRACER wrote:
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Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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F1 cars (and tracks) should turn left and right.
There is a (badly driven) onboard of the lap from what seems to be rFactor 1 on this Autosport video here:


In terms of laptime, it would be competing with Dijon in 1974, which (AFAIK), is the only time F1 cars lapped a circuit in under 60 seconds.
It does not seem to be much like an oval in the traditional sense, and I have no problems with that. I just dont like the idea of Speedway type ovals for F1.
Ross Brawn can be forgiven for calling it an oval, it's not like the man has worked in the sport for over 20 years.

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Post by Circuitmaster » 3 months ago

I think it's fair to say he knows that it's not an oval. It's just a nice catchy way to make the pitch
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Post by Michkov » 3 months ago

All the F1 journos need to get their weekly quota in after all.

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Post by Antonov » 3 months ago

Isn't it even possible to by-pass turn 1?

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Post by John » 3 months ago

erwin greven wrote:
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Would be an option for Interlagos :D
Speaking of, is the oval even around these days?
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Post by erwin greven » 3 months ago

Yes. it is still there. @John
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Post by White six » 3 months ago

erwin greven wrote:
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Would be an option for Interlagos :D
Would prefer the old 'full' Interlagos. You'd probably see retirements through 'dizziness'

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Antonov wrote:
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Isn't it even possible to by-pass turn 1?
It is but I rekon you want the braking zone into T1, else it's a bit like Silverstone, quick flick right with no passing opportunity. Since you loose T4 with the perimeter circuit that leaves only the final corner which isn't an ideal overtaking spot anyway. Not that DRS will make any of these points moot anyway.

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erwin greven wrote:
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Would be an option for Interlagos :D
Speaking of, is the oval even around these days?
Interlagos these days only has one variant, maybe two if you want to include the bike chicane at the final turn, but that's it. The oval is still there but the backstraight used as a dragstrip IIRC and the rest of the pavement would need major reconstruction to cope with F1 loads.


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Post by White six » 2 months ago

At which F1 circuit can you best compare lap times across the years? Suzuka? Has that changed the least?

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Post by DoubleFart » 2 months ago

ROKIT have gone off to Mercedes then. What about the money it was implied that they owe to Williams? Reduced engine costs?
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 2 months ago

Apparently (so I have read) it was Rokit that gave Williams the flick.... Williams are trying to (legally) get money that would have been due during the (recently extended) contract period.
I was not sure whether Rokit to Mercedes is confirmed yet or still a rumour. They have also been linked to Racing Point Haas and I am sure others as well.

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Post by Michkov » 2 months ago

White six wrote:
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At which F1 circuit can you best compare lap times across the years? Suzuka? Has that changed the least?
Problem is Suzuka has only been in F1 since 1987 with a period in the 2000s where Fuji jumped in for a while. I'd compare speeds across whole seasons, to get rid of the inherent variability in weather and circuit shape. Lucky for you I have that in graphical form in hand. :D

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Figure 1: Season average race speed for F1/Grand Prix, as well as Indy 500 (Qualy and Race) and Le Mans 24h. X-axis in years, Y-axis in kph

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