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Re: F1 2019 stuff not worthy of it's own thread

Post by DoubleFart » 1 year ago

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We need a race in Mexico for the sake of the poor Mexicans who will soon be trapped there by the wall.
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 1 year ago

DoubleFart wrote:
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We need a race in Mexico for the sake of the poor Mexicans who will soon be trapped there by the wall.
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Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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a second race in China, which is where the manufacturers want to be, given the importance of the Chinese market to the auto industry.
Car sales have tanked recently in China. Interesting times.
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Post by Antonov » 1 year ago

lol. as if they think ordinary people in China will start buying F1 cars for use on public roads. I don't see it happening.

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Post by kals » 1 year ago

DoubleFart wrote:
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We need a race in Mexico for the sake of the poor Mexicans who will soon be trapped there by the wall.
Yes however government funding for the GP is being diverted so that can repay Trump for said wall. Sad times for Mexicans

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lol. as if they think ordinary people in China will start buying F1 cars for use on public roads. I don't see it happening.
Mercedes sell near enough as many cars in China as they do in the USA, Germany, and UK combined. Mercedes are in F1 purely as a marketing tool to sell / develop their road cars. :wink:

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lol. as if they think ordinary people in China will start buying F1 cars for use on public roads. I don't see it happening.
Mercedes sell near enough as many cars in China as they do in the USA, Germany, and UK combined. Mercedes are in F1 purely as a marketing tool to sell / develop their road cars. :wink:
I thought China only had ragtag rip-offs of European cars with names that just roll off the tongue, like Dongfeng Fengxing and Changhe Beidouxing.
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PTRACER wrote:
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Everso Biggyballies wrote:
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lol. as if they think ordinary people in China will start buying F1 cars for use on public roads. I don't see it happening.
Mercedes sell near enough as many cars in China as they do in the USA, Germany, and UK combined. Mercedes are in F1 purely as a marketing tool to sell / develop their road cars. :wink:
I thought China only had ragtag rip-offs of European cars with names that just roll off the tongue, like Dongfeng Fengxing and Changhe Beidouxing.
They are just for the lower middle class who are entering into the car market. Upper middle class will not buy anything but quality (e.g. Mercedes, BMW, Audi) as a show of face.
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Post by John » 1 year ago

PTRACER wrote:
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Antonov wrote:
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lol. as if they think ordinary people in China will start buying F1 cars for use on public roads. I don't see it happening.
Mercedes sell near enough as many cars in China as they do in the USA, Germany, and UK combined. Mercedes are in F1 purely as a marketing tool to sell / develop their road cars. :wink:
I thought China only had ragtag rip-offs of European cars with names that just roll off the tongue, like Dongfeng Fengxing and Changhe Beidouxing.
Reminds me of that Top Gear-episode where they tested Chinese rip-off cars, like the Hongda and what not.
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Post by theracer120 » 1 year ago

Apparently the top three selling makes in China last year were VW, Honda and Toyota, in that order. Although there's a lot of Chinese-specific models made by those companies (ever heard of the VW Lavida or the Honda Crider?)

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theracer120 wrote:
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(ever heard of the VW Lavida or the Honda Crider?)
One looks like the VW Passat, the other a Honda Accord

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Formula 1 teams’ prize money payments for 2019 revealed

Ferrari continue to get paid more than all other teams including the 5 consecutive winners Mercedes.
Liberty Media’s prize money projections for 2019, which are awarded based on how teams performed in last year’s championship, will see Ferrari recover $205 million. Mercedes, who won the constructors’ championship for the fifth year in a row last season, will receive $177 million.
The sport’s commercial rights holder expects to share a prize pot of $1,004m between the teams. Haas has seen its prize money income rise by the most of any team after achieving its best result of fifth in last year’s championship. However it received just $10 million more than Williams, which ended 2018 last in the standings.

The income teams receive from the sport’s commercial rights holder is broken down into three parts. ‘Column one’ is a fixed share of revenue paid to any team which has finished in the top 10 of the championship in two of the past three seasons. ‘Column two’ is paid on a sliding scale based on a team’s finishing position in the previous championship.

On top of that five teams receive further payments – a ‘constructors’ championship bonus’ is paid to four teams; three other teams receive bonus payments ranging from $10 million (Williams) to $35 million (Mercedes and Red Bull); and a special Long-Standing Team payment is made to Ferrari alone. Worth $73 million this year, the LST payment has ensured Ferrari has consistently received the most money of any team since the current prize money structure was introduced in 2013.

According to a schedule seen by RaceFans, Liberty Media will award a column one payment to Racing Point. This is despite the team being admitted to the championship last year as a new entrant, which prompted claims that it should not qualify for column one revenue as it has not fulfilled the requirement to finish in the top 10 twice in the previous three championships.

Projected 2019 payments to F1 teams
All values in $m

Team Column 1 Column 2 Subtotal LST CCB Other Total 2018 +/- (%) 2018 position
Ferrari 35 56 91 73 41 205 ............................+5.7............ 2
Mercedes 35 66 101 41 35 177 ............................+4.1............ 1
Red Bull 35 46 81 36 35 152 ............................+4.1............ 3
McLaren 35 32 67 33 100 ............................+23.5...........6
Renault 35 38 73 73 ............................+17.7.......... 4
Haas 35 35 70 70 ...................................+32.1.......... 5
Williams 35 15 50 10 60............................. .-21.1.............10
Racing Point 35 24 59 59 ................. .-14.5............7
Sauber 35 21 56 56 ............................+21.7............8
Toro Rosso 35 17 52 52 ............................-7.1.............9
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Post by Everso Biggyballies » 1 year ago

Interesting that Kimi always makes the adjustments to his own seat after a seat fitting. He says simply, I know what I want so have done it myself for many years.
When I have a new seat always at first it feels different when you sit down. Once you do hundreds of laps you always try to do something, like it goes in the ribs.

I think it’s easier to do it myself because I know exactly where I want something so [it’s] exactly right. I’ve done it for years and years.

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Post by kals » 1 year ago

Two pieces of news that has appeared today...

Firstly, Paddy Lowe is taking a "leave of absence" from Williams.

Secondly, awarding a point for the fastest lap is being considered and will voted upon at the WMSC meeting ahead of the Australian GP.

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Post by DoubleFart » 1 year ago

Fastest Lap should only get a point if you're within the Top 10 finishers.
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DoubleFart wrote:
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Fastest Lap should only get a point if you're within the Top 10 finishers.
F2 does something like this for the sprint race. What I can see happening is that late in a race, drivers from P11 backward will pit and attempt to set the fastest lap. Depending on how far P11 or 12 is behind P10 then it could also change the finishing order in the points.

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