No, Lewis. The Monaco GP worked fine for 68 years or so. It's not the track or the weekend rules that need changing. It's the bloody cars and tires! Messing with the GP format is like trying to treat an underlying medical condition with aspirin.
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Agree with all of the above. If anything that should be considered for change with Monaco it is the race length. It isn’t equal to any other race, the shortest on the calendar by some distance. 160 miles is too short.
In fact the whole 200 miles or two hours format of F1 needs a rethink. But that’s an entirely different conversation.
the 2 hours is only done because it has to be within a time slot.
Race length... yeah, it is normally 305km +1 lap. Monaco is not going to reach that with only 78 laps. To get back to 305 km + 1 lap they should run 92 laps.
Brian Redman: "Mr. Fangio, how do you come so fast?" "More throttle, less brakes...."
erwin greven wrote: ↑5 years ago Leclerc having a good race until his brake failure.
Anyone who ran behind Hartley didn't get to show a smidgen of their true race pace - he was a moving traffic jam. There was, what, five or six drivers doing the conga behind him? He basically got stuck there and remained planted the rest of the race. Him and a bunch of others. C'est Monaco.
C’est vrai
Earlier this week I rewatched the 1996 Monaco GP. There was virtually no overtaking throughout. In fact Hakkinen followed Salo nose to tail for virtually the entire distance. For the first at least quarter of the race Eddie Irvine was a mobile chicane. By lap 15 more than half the field was out of the race and Hill was ahead of Alesi by miles. Alesi had a similar advantage to Irvine.
Despite the lack of overtaking the race was and still is fascinating.
(moving our discussion over here seemed a tad more appropriate)
I'm not going to bitch about the lack of passing at Monaco, if you mess up your Q-run you're going to be doomed. It's the way the circuit is.
HOWEVER, I'm not against looking at perhaps changing the layout. Or maybe even making the race longer. Or both. I've no idea how such a layout change would work. Is it possible to go straight on at Mirabeau, or at Rascasse. Or maybe scrap the Nouvelle chicane (we got the Halo now, the cars are safe - right?)
Re: race distance - ironically I believe this year’s race was really long - it ended around 4pm UK time so that’s 1:50 hrs. The fastest lap was I believe something in the region of 1:14s so that was much slower than Saturday. So I’m not sure going to the original race distance is feasible, although I’m not against it.
Re: changing track layout - I’m quite averse to this one. It’s one of the few tracks on the calendar which has remained pretty much the same through history and changing it risks devaluing it Monaco in terms of the prestige and no longer allows a direct comparison to the past. True they removed the barriers at the swimming pool chicane and San Devote is slightly easier but I’m all for putting those walls back!
It was only three laps, but who here thinks Mansell would have passed Senna even if he had 10 or 20 laps to do it?
And the cars were narrower back then too, weren't they? Look at Hartley holding up five or six drivers for 50 laps. Leclerc couldn't get by him at all. Well, until he went full Maldonaldo when his brakes failed.
No 1992 cars where had a maximum width of 2150mm, that was reduced to 2000mm next year and finally to 1800mm in 1998. Which was in place until last year when it went up to 2000mm. Current cars seem to be longer though as the early 1990s cars seem very square from looking at them.
Picci wrote: ↑5 years ago
Re: changing track layout - I’m quite averse to this one. It’s one of the few tracks on the calendar which has remained pretty much the same through history and changing it risks devaluing it Monaco in terms of the prestige and no longer allows a direct comparison to the past.
+1
There is no need to alter the layout of the track. In fact the track has been altered several times. St. Devote, Nouveau Chicane, Tabac, the back straight changed when Piscine and Rascasse appeared. Both sections were eased a bit later. Anthony Noghes. Also the back straight was originally further from the harbour, close to the S/F straight.
