Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑6 years ago
Of course there is now no 'official' link between Ferrari and Fiat Chrysler since Ferrari were split away from the group to operate as a stand alone. I am not sure how that separation works mind you, given Marchionne presides over both Ferrari and FCA (I think he is Chairman of Ferrari and CEO of FCA).
Or do Fiat still own a majority shareholding of the floated off Ferrari?
Clearly the Alfa involvement with Sauber is a Marketing excercise, (presumably funded by FCA) in blunt terms a sponsorship as others have highlighted, and Ferrari are the engine and technical partner.... with a say in the drivers of the Alfa Sauber.
And then there is the Agnelli family who own AFAIK most of the Fiat shares, (and presumably a shareholding by extension of Fiat Chrysler) and presumably still a chunk of Ferrari
Are Alfa just a pawn in the latest episode of 'Ferrari threatens to throw their toys out of the pram?'
Im confused!
Ferrari spin off from fca was made for financial purposes, as it allowed a benefit to fca shareholders. The major shareholder of both company is exor, the holding owned by angelli family.
Alfa romeo comback to f1 is merely a sponsorship matter, and the money will mostly used to pay ferrari engine supply and keep alive the swiss team. Sauber will act as a junior ferrari team, ensuring no competition will be made in the fiat team galaxy
Thanks for easing my confusion Toni.
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Everso Biggyballies wrote: ↑6 years ago
Of course there is now no 'official' link between Ferrari and Fiat Chrysler since Ferrari were split away from the group to operate as a stand alone. I am not sure how that separation works mind you, given Marchionne presides over both Ferrari and FCA (I think he is Chairman of Ferrari and CEO of FCA).
Or do Fiat still own a majority shareholding of the floated off Ferrari?
Clearly the Alfa involvement with Sauber is a Marketing excercise, (presumably funded by FCA) in blunt terms a sponsorship as others have highlighted, and Ferrari are the engine and technical partner.... with a say in the drivers of the Alfa Sauber.
And then there is the Agnelli family who own AFAIK most of the Fiat shares, (and presumably a shareholding by extension of Fiat Chrysler) and presumably still a chunk of Ferrari
Are Alfa just a pawn in the latest episode of 'Ferrari threatens to throw their toys out of the pram?'
Im confused!
Ferrari spin off from fca was made for financial purposes, as it allowed a benefit to fca shareholders. The major shareholder of both company is exor, the holding owned by angelli family.
Alfa romeo comback to f1 is merely a sponsorship matter, and the money will mostly used to pay ferrari engine supply and keep alive the swiss team. Sauber will act as a junior ferrari team, ensuring no competition will be made in the fiat team galaxy
Thanks for easing my confusion Toni.
I saw elsewhere that Vasseur was not interested in becoming a Ferrari B-team, hence his reluctance to take on Giovanazzi as well as Leclerc.
I know Erwin posted the official release (but still a concept until the new car launches) of the Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team (ironically abbreviates to ARSFIT !!)
but thought it appropriate to post the image of the car here.
So I bring you the official ARSFIT rendering of their (proposed) new livery
* I started life with nothing, and still have most of it left
“Good drivers have dead flies on the side windows!” (Walter Röhrl)
* I married Miss Right. Just didn't know her first name was Always
Red is the italian racing color. When they came back in the late 70s they used a red lvery with some white stripes. They for sponsor reason they turned in the marlboro livery and benetton livery in the autodelta days
Sauber have kept Ericsson because of his connections to the team owners. When talents the likes of Nasr, Wehrlein and Giovanazzi are usurped by someone who has done nothing in their junior career and been no more than an Oscar Ceremony seat filler in F1, you know he’s not there on talent.
kals wrote: ↑6 years ago
Sauber have kept Ericsson because of his connections to the team owners. When talents the likes of Nasr, Wehrlein and Giovanazzi are usurped by someone who has done nothing in their junior career and been no more than an Oscar Ceremony seat filler in F1, you know he’s not there on talent.
Well, to be fair, Nasr was trashed last year. He would have been racing for Sauber this year as well if Banco do Brasil hadn't pulled the plug. And I expected Wehrlein to dominate more than he did in the team this year. But no, of course he's not there on merit.
Hmmm... somehow Ericsson was able to keep up with Nasr and Wehrlein from time to time but it definitely wasn’t because of preferential treatment from the team who happened to be owned by Marcus’ backers...
That reminds me of what happened with Kobayashi at Caterham in 2014 and in Glock’s final season for Virgin in 2012.