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Bottom post of the previous page:

Everso Biggyballies wrote: 6 years ago
kals wrote: 6 years ago
Correct. Gene actually replaced an injured Ralf Schumacher at Monza.

Now who can guess the last driver who achieved a 100% finish rate?
Well it wasnt Ralf I guess :haha:

I misunderstood the question. I thought you meant 100% in 2003.

Last 100% was it not your mate Chilton? He didnt do 100% of the laps but he did finish every race in 2013. The stat always horrifies me.
Unless someone has done it since. Danny Ric must have run it close one year
I mean the last driver not yet mentioned from my original question about 2003.
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I have just realised that although I was right, I was actually confused with the 2004 season.
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By the way, the answer was Nicholas Kiesa who joined Minardi midseason to replace Justin Wilson after he took over from the fired Antonio Pizzonia at Jaguar.
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Hmm, so my confused answer was actually a correct answer and a hint as to the real answer. Not bad for dementia in action.
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During his career, Jenson Button raced against Max Verstappen, and also both Max's Mum and Dad.

Cool fact I've just read in JB's book.
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DoubleFart wrote: 6 years ago During his career, Jenson Button raced against Max Verstappen, and also both Max's Mum and Dad.

Cool fact I've just read in JB's book.
Not sure if "I raced hard against your mum" is a joke, or praise...
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Depends if they had contact on track and he banged her from behind?
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MonteCristo wrote: 6 years ago
DoubleFart wrote: 6 years ago During his career, Jenson Button raced against Max Verstappen, and also both Max's Mum and Dad.

Cool fact I've just read in JB's book.
Not sure if "I raced hard against your mum" is a joke, or praise...
I have read elsewhere she gave Jenson (plus Fisi and Trulli) a good thrashing!
(She raced and at times beat them all in International karts.)

Hmmmm, Mother enjoys thrashing men and calls her son Max! Has to be a line there somewhere..... :whistling:

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DoubleFart wrote: 6 years ago Depends if they had contact on track and he banged her from behind?
Maybe Jenson started at the rear and finished up front?
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kals wrote: 6 years ago
DoubleFart wrote: 6 years ago Depends if they had contact on track and he banged her from behind?
Maybe Jenson started at the rear and finished up front?
disgusting.

but it does explain why Jenson is so good at reading wet to dry conditions.
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anyone know why Frentzen was an instant dismissal by the Jordan team back in 2001?

I remember it was just in time for the Hockenheim GP, with various hostile (towards EJ) banners.
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Antonov wrote: 6 years ago anyone know why Frentzen was an instant dismissal by the Jordan team back in 2001?

I remember it was just in time for the Hockenheim GP, with various hostile (towards EJ) banners.
It was to do with Honda. I believe Frentzen was a sacrificial lamb in order for Eddie to retain Honda engines. I’ll dig out the article once I find it.

EDIT - Here you go, this is from 2005
Jordan Reveals He Sacrificed Frentzen for Engines
By Reuters Sunday, February 20th 2005, 13:11 GMT

Eddie Jordan has cast light on his controversial sacking of German driver Heinz-Harald Frentzen in 2001, saying that he did it to save his Formula One team's Honda engine supply.

"People didn't understand the Frentzen situation," the Irishman, who sold his team to Russian-born Canadian businessman Alex Shnaider last month, told Ireland's Sunday Independent newspaper.

"At the time I couldn't let him renew the contract because my only way of holding onto the Honda engine was by giving (Japan's Takuma) Sato the drive.

"I loved Frentzen. He won more Grands Prix for Jordan than anyone else. But I had to protect the engine situation, that was absolutely crucial.

"I took it on the chin. Nobody except myself and one or two in Jordan realised why I had to do what I did. I was in a position I hated. I wanted to keep Frentzen but I couldn't."

Frentzen won two races for Jordan in 1999, helping the team to third place overall in the constructors' championship -- their best ever performance.

He was fired abruptly by fax on the eve of his home German Grand Prix in July 2001 and replaced by Frenchman Jean Alesi as a stop-gap in a move that stunned many in the sport. No reason was given at the time.

Sato was signed later that year and had a crash-strewn first season with Jordan before finishing fifth in the final Japanese Grand Prix.

He joined BAR, now 45 percent owned by Honda, in 2003. Honda severed their contract with Jordan at the end of 2002.

Jordan, whose team struggled to survive last year, said he was not despondent about his departure from the sport after being one of the leading characters for 14 years.

"The worst thing would be to stay around and be completely sad about it," he said. "People say, 'oh, you'll be in Australia'. I won't. It's too far away and this team has to stand on its own two feet.

"They need time to get themselves together and they don't need the confusion of me being there and being seen to interfere."

Jordan, to be renamed Midland in 2006, will be launching their new car in Moscow's Red Square on Friday. The season starts in Melbourne on March 6.
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Were they unaware that Trulli was off then?
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DoubleFart wrote: 6 years ago Were they unaware that Trulli was off then?
Perhaps Fisichella was already signed for 2002? I don't remember the timeline, I'll have to look it up.
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Anyway, Frentzen moved on to this beautiful car, scoring one point in Monaco
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Today Force India failed to score points at the Australian GP for the first time since 2009. That’s quite a run.
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