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[Motorsportrace]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Oh, forgot to say about Francis Galiardo's case: my friend said that despite specific accent in audio he heard that accident happened at high speed at some "ring", which probably means racing circuit. So it seems that @Motorsportrace was initally right.

Really?
You know, he said "traffic accident", so it might be that he was driving a road car in a street closed to traffic, or something like that.

[Sedre]

Oh, forgot to say about Francis Galiardo's case: my friend said that despite specific accent in audio he heard that accident happened at high speed at some "ring", which probably means racing circuit. So it seems that @Motorsportrace was initally right.

Really?
You know, he said "traffic accident", so it might be that he was driving a road car in a street closed to traffic, or something like that.

Maybe it's better to wait for @hollie3sa as he also want to translate audio.

My friend said that speed during accident was really high ("something with few hundreds"), so it could be possible that he crashed at the wheel of his racing car. If it's true, there's two versions: 1. if he was on the way to racing event or returned from it, then it's clearly traffic accident; 2. if he made tests in closed circuit or even on public roads then it could be called "racing accident", despite that in latter variant it would be added to LWF section;

If version #1 is true, then I will delete Galiardo from "to confirmation" list, if version #2 is true, then I'll move him to "confirmed" list; I count some LWF cases as "racing accident", if they happened during private sessions at racing circuits (like Sean Edwards, who was instructor to another driver; it wasn't track day or driving experience) or public roads with race drivers, who practiced for certain events/series (Korzanowski/Zembowicz, A.Giovanetti) or who were confirmed to be legal race drivers.

[hollie3sa]

Back to the actual topic: Who of you is able to program and provide a database?

Or do we need help from someone who has already created such a thing (e.g. something like a database for visual media content?)

I'll try to do this but I have one question: what kind of database we would be use? I mean, will we redo part of CPDB with fatal accidents or will start something new?

@PTRACER

Recommendations? I suppose you're running quite low on time to do it yourself. Right?

Very little right now. I could give you the program I use though if you want to have a play. Understanding of how databases work (e.g. primary keys, table relationships, MySQL etc.) is pretty much essential.

I like the challenge.

[Sedre]

A bit late update to my list:

1. New entries:
Gary Byerly (*23.01.1952 †01.07.2006, no MM entry)
Harry Olswang (†16.12.1931)
Bobby Miller (*21.07.1929 †07.08.1960)
T.L. Braly (*14.03.1897 †02.01.1922)
Philippe Viennet (†26.07.2008)
José Luis Gallo (†02.10.1977)
Allan Fairweather (†25.09.2016, no MM entry)
Gody Winzenried (†09.09.1967)
Bill Rowe (*03.02.1937 †24.08.2010, no MM entry)
Leon Waltz (*23.11.1917 †22.09.1941)
Peter DeFilippo (*08.04.1903 †14.06.1926)
Buddy Iuliano (*03.01.1948 †05.10.1968)
Bedřich Soffer (*08.07.1898 †05.09.1928)
Cap Woodhouse (*06.12.1897 †07.10.1933)
Hugo Dreyer (†20.08.1937, photo of accident can be found in "Sports Car Accidents" thread)
Dave Harris (*08.09.1906 †04.08.1935)
Shu Li Chen (†07.04.2007)
Guy Theis (*13.05.1964 †17.10.1987)
Tony Martinek (*03.12.1924 †25.09.1948)
W.T. Weatherbee (*05.01.1887 †17.07.1927)

2. New additions to list:
Russell Leafe
Gordon Strom
Donald Price
Mark Newsome
Curtis Dennis
David Livingston
David Cornwell
Ronald Garlock
Denis Derex
Les Verly
Richard White
Georges Boulanger & Laurent Thilliez (I accidently forgot to add them into Google Disk database )

3. Updating information:

Added full name of John Fyvie
Added full name of Bob Bradley
Confirmed first name of Bob Gardiner as Robert
Corrected brand of Xavier Hutin's car
Claudio Giovanini was moved to LWF section of MM.org (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/LWFWI ... =ct&n=2241)
Racer Peters (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ct&n=5988) is now omitted from my list as it's need to confirm type of vehicle - Internationale Österreichische Alpenfahrt was held for automobiles and motorcycles and several motorcycle riders also were riding Puch (that company built both cars and motorcycles).
Added MM.org number for Michael Robinson

At the weekend (after I'll make my decision about type of database I want to use) I'll add to "unconfirmed" list several French racers from Pilotos Muertos list, published in early 2007.

[Motorsportrace]

Hugo Dreyer (†20.08.1937, photo of accident can be found in "Sports Car Accidents" thread)

Incredible that I didn't notice it before.
It happened near my town, and I had tried to look for photos for a lot of time, without finding anything.
I also tried to see if the local library had any newspapers of that era, but they didn't.

I'll add it to the CPDB.

[Sedre]

New update of list:

1. New entries:
Walter Cavallari (†15.09.2007)
Karl McDougall (*??.??.1965 †??.??.1991)
Cotton Bunker (*18.01.1901 †23.08.1931)
Alan Lloyd (*27.01.1939 †18.10.1987, photo of accident would be added in appropriate thread)
Bill Grant (*22.03.1960 †12.07.2009)
John Cooper (†27.04.1952, no MM entry)
Larry Eaton (*04.11.1950 †12.07.2008, no MM entry)
Mike Vella (*17.02.1955 †10.09.1976)
Burt Sonner (*09.10.1938 †04.05.1974, photo of accident would be added in appropriate thread)
? Blouin (†??.07.1954) & ? Guichard (†??.07.1954)
Gary Miller (*??.??.1937 †28.07.1959, no MM entry)
Enzo Culasso (†18.07.1954)
? Parra (†01.05.1964, no MM entry)
Petros Kouvatsos (*??.??.1924 †27.07.1963, no MM entry, photo of accident would be added in appropriate thread)
Ron Valine (*23.05.1943 †03.05.2012, no MM entry)
Juan Carlos Brasola (†??.??.1940)
John Horton (*31.03.1974 †19.09.2004)
Gary Shaw (†09.09.2002, no MM entry)
Otis Eaton (*01.05.1928 †16.05.1955)
Joe Thomas (*??.??.1896 †04.07.1921)

2. New additions to list:
Ernst Meier
Philippe Borghi
Raymonde Vuilleumier
Siegfried Kücken
John Whiston
David Bouchard
Denny Snyder (originally found and mentioned by @Michael Ferner in "Motorsport Memorial updates" thread)

3.Updating information:
Removed William Farmer - motorcycle accident http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... ms&n=10189
From MM.org:
Added place of birth to George Handley, Bill Horstmeyer, Cliff Johns, Lou Fenno, Ival Copper, Bob Bean, Keith Hays, Michael Robinson, Tony Davis
Added place of death to George Handley, Henry Williams
Changed country of death to Alan Turner and Graham Castle (from Wales to England)
Added age to Emile Stricker
Added date of accident and death to Hans Christensen
Added full brand of Henry Williams's vehicle

From Fastlane:
Added "Confirmed" status to Henry Williams's crash photo (credit to @Jesper Hvid)
Added "Confirmed" status to Lou Cangelose's crash photo (credit to @hollie3sa)

Own research:
Added age to Xavier Hutin, Max Berney, René Spengler, P.S.Gill & A.K.Srivastava
Added number of vehicle of Patrick Canado
Added "Confirmed" status to crash videos of Daniel Urrutia, Christian Heins, Arsenio Laurel, Michael Himes, Peter Hall
Added "Confirmed" status to crash photos of Axel Perrenoud, Gody Winzenried and Kauko Eriksson
Added number of vehicle, involved in Kauko Eriksson's death
Added date of accident and death to Jean-Claude Wicke & Yves Wache
Added correct spelling of Fabrice Daremont's name (formerly Fabrice Delmont) and number of his and Frederic Jacobs's vehicle
Added age, date of accident and death to Droop MacDonald
Added full name to Jesus Saiz

[Sedre]

Back to the actual topic: Who of you is able to program and provide a database?

Or do we need help from someone who has already created such a thing (e.g. something like a database for visual media content?)

I'll try to do this but I have one question: what kind of database we would be use? I mean, will we redo part of CPDB with fatal accidents or will start something new?

@PTRACER

Recommendations? I suppose you're running quite low on time to do it yourself. Right?

Very little right now. I could give you the program I use though if you want to have a play. Understanding of how databases work (e.g. primary keys, table relationships, MySQL etc.) is pretty much essential.

Alternatively, I could copy/paste the structure of the CPdB and change some category titles to suit, if you don't mind it taking a while.

I'll go with first choice as it sounds more interesting to make something own.

[Sedre]

As usually, update to my list:

1. New entries:
Miguel Zorzi (†08.10.2016, no MM.org entry, link to accident pictures can be found in "Motorsport Memorial updates" thread)
Charles Robinson (†01.07.1911, no MM.org entry)
Ned Witte (*03.07.1909 †04.07.1935)
Melvin Kreiser (*05.12.1923 †01.09.1957)
Kleber Jauffret (†??.??.1926, no MM.org entry)
Herbert Fullington (*??.??.1874 †23.09.1917)
Ken Tibbs (*02.09.1942 †22.06.1974)
Jorge Cuevas (†08.09.1959)
Barry Robinson (†30.11.1963)
Kon Hansen (*01.12.1884 †04.07.1917)
Rob Jones (*04.07.1955 †28.05.1983)
Barry Whyte (†18.04.2014)
Don Lamacchia (*26.10.1964 †19.08.2018)
Speedy Estep (*20.01.1926 †22.07.1951)
Gianfranco Sabatini (*24.08.1946 †26.07.1987)
Ermanno Gibertini (†19.10.1957)
Jon Balster (*06.02.1943 †17.05.1980)
Harvey Crane (*29.02.1896 †16.10.1920)
Louis Hill (*31.05.1931 †30.08.1959)
Carl Hersh (*01.12.1935 †07.09.1957, photos of accident can be found appropriate thread)
Walt Trevelyan (*03.03.1898 †12.07.1942)
Louie Burkett (*29.04.1902 †16.07.1926)
Lee Mossbarger (*01.03.1931 †07.09.1954)
Wayne Shollenberger (*02.06.1913 †04.07.1935)
Gabriel Galego (†24.07.2010, no MM.org entry)
David Baker (*27.06.1949 †18.01.1981, no MM.org entry)
Claude Barthelet (†30.09.1984) & Georges Constantino (†30.09.1984)
Ross Fyfe (*??.??.1957 †28.12.1991)
Jim Victor (*29.07.1946 †27.07.2018, no MM.org entry)
Anthony Barry (*08.01.1950 †23.06.1968)
Earl Pearson (*02.03.1928 †09.06.1963, photo of accident can be found appropriate thread)
Frank Wentz (*09.08.1908 †04.07.1936)
Ray Armstrong (*22.03.1900 †21.02.1927)
Robert Gunder (*23.04.1938 †04.08.1972, no MM.org entry)
Junior Bowers (*22.09.1923 †03.08.1960)
Claude Phillips (*11.04.1896 †05.07.1936)
Claude Blum (†05.08.1960)
David Chitwood (*07.03.1939 †01.09.1972)
Herminio Cuesta (†??.??.1970)
Pete Rorres (*??.??.1939 †18.06.1967)

2. New additions to list:
Greg Hodnett (thanks to @mattia2 for noticing about fatality)
Gene Moore
Danny Forsyth
Jeff Hagaman - found by MM.org

3. Updating information:
Added MM numbers to Roger Paulson and Bill Childers

From MM.org:
Added full name, place of birth and death, series and event type to Roger Paulson
Added place of birth, event title and vehicle brand to Bill Childers

Own research:
Added date of birth and age of Willi Berger
Added full name to Gays Biro

4. Added several Frenchman from Pilotos Muertos list who could be victims of racing accident; they're marked bold in list; I'll add more cases today.

Several names have presumed cause of death, but I cannot confirm if it's true; they came from Autoanddrive lists, who marked Jean-Claude Fountaine as victim of traffic accident (while he was killed during hillclimb), so I cannot crossed their names from list without confirmation.

[Michael Ferner]

Greg Hodnett's died? Oh, that's tough!

[hollie3sa]

And here we go:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ScaLtPOU3x

If you can understand what circuit he mentions, well, tell me.

Here's what's said in the recording. If you wish for the translation/transcription (please don't ) of the second part as well, let me know.

A: Les sports
À présent un chapitre sportive féerique ??? cruellement endeuillé par la mort accidentelle il y a au soir du pilote Charantais Francis Gallardo.

B: Oui, le pilote automobile Charantais Francis Gallardo qui a trouvé la mort hier soir en Dordogne, victime, ironie du sort, d’un banal accident de la circulation.
Le conducteur d’un véhicule arrivent en sens invert et (??) y a perdu le contrôle de sa voiture est venu le percuter de plain fouet. Griévement blesse Francis Gallardo est décédé quelques heures plus tards a l’hôpital de Pérgiueux

A: Sports:
At first, a fairy-tale-chapter of sports, cruelly put/placed into mourning by the accidental death of the Charantais-based driver Francis Gallardo yesterday evening.

B: Yes, the Charantais-based driver Francis Gallardo, was the victim, irony of fate, of a banal traffic accident.
The driver of a oncoming vehicle, going into the opposite direction, lost control of his car and collided with Gallardo at full force. Gallardo, severely injured, died several hours later at the Périgueux-hospital

@Sedre

[Sedre]

And here we go:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0ScaLtPOU3x

If you can understand what circuit he mentions, well, tell me.

Here's what's said in the recording. If you wish for the translation/transcription (please don't ) of the second part as well, let me know.

A: Les sports
À présent un chapitre sportive féerique ??? cruellement endeuillé par la mort accidentelle il y a au soir du pilote Charantais Francis Gallardo.

B: Oui, le pilote automobile Charantais Francis Gallardo qui a trouvé la mort hier soir en Dordogne, victime, ironie du sort, d’un banal accident de la circulation.
Le conducteur d’un véhicule arrivent en sens invert et (??) y a perdu le contrôle de sa voiture est venu le percuter de plain fouet. Griévement blesse Francis Gallardo est décédé quelques heures plus tards a l’hôpital de Pérgiueux

A: Sports:
At first, a fairy-tale-chapter of sports, cruelly put/placed into mourning by the accidental death of the Charantais-based driver Francis Gallardo yesterday evening.

B: Yes, the Charantais-based driver Francis Gallardo, was the victim, irony of fate, of a banal traffic accident.
The driver of a oncoming vehicle, going into the opposite direction, lost control of his car and collided with Gallardo at full force. Gallardo, severely injured, died several hours later at the Périgueux-hospital

@Sedre

Thanks for translation. Gallardo will be omitted from list.

[Sedre]

Maybe a bit off-topic request, but did anybody know free digital archive of French newspapers for 20th century?

Even regional one would be helpful for my research.

[hollie3sa]

Some don't work, some archives are s**t. But some work: http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/france.htm

I don't think there's a collective archive for French newspapers

[Sedre]

[sarcasm]Fantastic[/sarcasm] site, none of newspapers archives archives was opened; I even tried to open few archives of modern newspapers from my county, but nothing happened. Anyway, thanks.

BTW, @hollie3sa, maybe you have links for German newspapers archives?

[mattia2]

Greg Hodnett's died? Oh, that's tough!

Yep, The crash seems to be a little strange. He broke the steering entering turn one at the BAPS Motor Speedway in Pennsylvania, and the he crashed in a opening in the fence, i think something like micheal waltrip at Bristol 1990. I've read that there are photos around the internet, but i didn' found anything. Also, i think he died instantly, the coroner was called at the track right after the crash happened, so it could be a really bad accident.

[hollie3sa]

[sarcasm]Fantastic[/sarcasm] site, none of newspapers archives archives was opened; I even tried to open few archives of modern newspapers from my county, but nothing happened. Anyway, thanks.

BTW, @hollie3sa, maybe you have links for German newspapers archives?

http://digipress.digitale-sammlungen.de is the only "good" archive I know of.

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/index-1947.html - Spiegel