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Post by hollie3sa » 6 months ago

Latest post of the previous page:

They say that the 7th edition of the Rallye Régional de Fayence was won "this afternoon" by the Renault 11, driven by the team Charreton/Hernoux. It was a victory dedicated to the driver who died "yesterday" after he left the track ("lors d'une sortie de route"). His co-pilot who's severely burned ("gravement brûlé") is out of danger ("hors de danger").


The two names mentioned afterwards - Jean Bernard Vitiello + Jacques Carlhier/Carhier/Carrier - are reporters from the broadcaster that investigated about the security measures etc. ("sont revenus sur le circumstances de cet accident, se sont intéressé aux modalités sécurité...")

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... fOVXSGgDnI

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Post by Sedre » 6 months ago

hollie3sa wrote:
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They say that the 7th edition of the Rallye Régional de Fayence was won "this afternoon" by the Renault 11, driven by the team Charreton/Hernoux. It was a victory dedicated to the driver who died "yesterday" after he left the track ("lors d'une sortie de route"). His co-pilot who's severely burned ("gravement brûlé") is out of danger ("hors de danger").


The two names mentioned afterwards - Jean Bernard Vitiello + Jacques Carlhier/Carhier/Carrier - are reporters from the broadcaster that investigated about the security measures etc. ("sont revenus sur le circumstances de cet accident, se sont intéressé aux modalités sécurité...")

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... fOVXSGgDnI
Thanks for translation!

It's quite sad that news report didn't tell name of deceased driver. I think that we need to search someone who have French autosport magazines such as Echappement. I'll ask Nanni Dietrich as there were some MM.org contributors who cited these magazines to contact with them.

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Post by Motorsportrace » 6 months ago

Sedre wrote:
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hollie3sa wrote:
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They say that the 7th edition of the Rallye Régional de Fayence was won "this afternoon" by the Renault 11, driven by the team Charreton/Hernoux. It was a victory dedicated to the driver who died "yesterday" after he left the track ("lors d'une sortie de route"). His co-pilot who's severely burned ("gravement brûlé") is out of danger ("hors de danger").


The two names mentioned afterwards - Jean Bernard Vitiello + Jacques Carlhier/Carhier/Carrier - are reporters from the broadcaster that investigated about the security measures etc. ("sont revenus sur le circumstances de cet accident, se sont intéressé aux modalités sécurité...")

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... fOVXSGgDnI
Thanks for translation!

It's quite sad that news report didn't tell name of deceased driver. I think that we need to search someone who have French autosport magazines such as Echappement. I'll ask Nanni Dietrich as there were some MM.org contributors who cited these magazines to contact with them.
Also, if any of these contributors have new images...
There are a lot of sources on mm.orf that are not available anywhere, and that may contain photos we haven't seen yet.
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Post by Sedre » 6 months ago

Ok, I'll ask them.

I've already talked to my friend and active contributor Isbel Quiroz from Argentina a week ago and he revealed that he has some fatalities videos which are missing from YouTube and DarcyF1.com as well as some fatalities photos (including from Argentinean racing magazines). He will share these videos and photos with me later as he need to organize them.

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Post by Sedre » 5 months ago

And one more from INA - Antoinette Mangin, Abreschviller hillclimb, 1968:
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MM.org states that accident happened in 1973 (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ct&n=9552), that's untrue, 3rd edition of Abreschviller hillclimb was held in May 1968. And that also means that Patrick Reichrath's crash happened in 1976, not 1981: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ct&n=9553.

I found news reports of 1976 Abreschviller and death of Reichrath is mentioned in beginning but no pictures of accident. I think that we should correct CPDB entry: http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/cras ... itid1=2610. If it's needed I will record audios for both reports and post there.

1976 Abreschviller hillclimb was also held in May, BTW.

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Post by hollie3sa » 5 months ago

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And one more from INA - Antoinette Mangin, Abreschviller hillclimb, 1968:
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MM.org states that accident happened in 1973 (http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ct&n=9552), that's untrue, 3rd edition of Abreschviller hillclimb was held in May 1968. And that also means that Patrick Reichrath's crash happened in 1976, not 1981: http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus ... =ct&n=9553.

I found news reports of 1976 Abreschviller and death of Reichrath is mentioned in beginning but no pictures of accident. I think that we should correct CPDB entry: http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk/cpdb/cras ... itid1=2610. If it's needed I will record audios for both reports and post there.

1976 Abreschviller hillclimb was also held in May, BTW.
Anything relevant in the audio files? If you think so, feel free to send them to me.

Reichrath's entry is updated with the correct year.

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Post by Sedre » 4 months ago

@hollie3sa, could you listen these two audios about Mangin and Reichrath's crashes in previous post?

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Post by hollie3sa » 4 months ago

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@hollie3sa, could you listen these two audios about Mangin and Reichrath's crashes in previous post?
The only new piece of information is the date of the accident: 01.Jul.1973 ("premier dimanche de juillet"). Mangin was taken to the Strasbourg hospital.

Pretty much the same for Reichrath's accident. The competition was continued. + Results, results, results.

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Post by Sedre » 4 months ago

Thanks. It's actually 7 July 1968 for Mangin as video with her crash aftermath was dated by 8 July 1968.

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Post by Sedre » 2 months ago

I asked Nanni Dietrich and he give me contact of MM.org contributor from France who have large collection of French racing magazines so I'll ask him about these unnamed cases from INA archives and unconfirmed fatalities from other sources.

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Post by Sedre » 2 months ago

@hollie3sa

There's another audio about 1992 Rallye de Fayence fatal accident; can you translate it, please?

https://mega.nz/#!PKp0CQCY!AFPE0JwpWFIO ... RLAUlyZlg8

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Post by Motorsportrace » 2 months ago

Sedre wrote:
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I asked Nanni Dietrich and he give me contact of MM.org contributor from France who have large collection of French racing magazines so I'll ask him about these unnamed cases from INA archives and unconfirmed fatalities from other sources.
I hope the magazines he has contain photos.
And that he's willing to send them.
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